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  Being Removed From Facebook and Twitter

  by minimus in

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  i have a very good friend who has been banned from facebook simply because he makes remarks positive about president trump and negative toward the democratic party.

  he has tried to get back on facebook and it appears there is no way for him to return.

  people are being removed from social media platforms simply because they have a different political view.

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  Anna Marina

  1925 – Propaganda - a book written by Edward Bernays. He was Freud's nephew. It is about the engineering of consent. As the country becomes more democratic, you cannot run it like you used to, as a private club so you have to control what people think. Therefore, the public relations industry started. Leading figures were from the Creel Commission. Edward Bernays was the leading light and he was hired to make Rockerfeller's image look better. In this time period the word 'propaganda' just meant 'information'. Bernays applies the lessons of the first World War. During that period the propaganda (information) system showed that it is possible to "regiment the public mind every bit as much as an army regiments their bodies." These new techniques of regimentation of minds, he said, had to be used by the intelligent minorities in order to make sure that the "slobs" stay on the right course.

  Available on Kindle for £7.59

  https://www.amazon.co.uk/PROPAGANDA-Edward-Bernays/dp/0970312598/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1
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  Has Anyone Gotten Disfellowshipped Here and For What??

  by minimus in

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  sex issues seem to be the number one reason but apostasy is right up there too.

  even if you weren’t disfellowshipped , do you know why some people you know were disfellowshipped?

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  I was disfellowshipped for saying Dan 1:1 really did mean the 3rd year of Jehoiakim's rulership and that Dan 2:1 really did mean the 2nd year of Nebuchadnezzar's rulership.

  A friend was df'd for asking the elders about the child abuse issues and was disfelloshipped without even being told about it. She was 79 years old. This happened last year just before she had a major operation. So when her ex-cong members see her limping in a shop they are supposed to shun her rather than offer to help carry her shopping. Or smile or speak kindly to her.
  
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  Being Removed From Facebook and Twitter

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a very good friend who has been banned from facebook simply because he makes remarks positive about president trump and negative toward the democratic party.

  he has tried to get back on facebook and it appears there is no way for him to return.

  people are being removed from social media platforms simply because they have a different political view.

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  Anna Marina

  Facebook and Twitter are platforms - the ones who hold the rights own it and if you agree to their terms and conditions, you agree. It's just like WT. WT owns it's platform.
  

  If you take part in it you add weight to it. If you leave it, it becomes more light weight.

  Of course it does depend exactly what you are weighing.
  
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  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

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  Drearyweather - something similar happened to me. When they really have nothing on you they actually leave you alone. If you are questioning their doctrine from a scriptural point of view they become toothless and seek to avoid you. They ignore you up to a point.

  Yes there were personal reasons this why this one chose not to go until this point. And yes of course, in reality this one will leave them, not the other way around. FYI the person has influence locally, is much loved and deeply respected.

  Because it is recognised that elders have not framed policies, kindness has been extended to them. We know they have their apostate rifles out. As usual they are aiming at their own heads. Kind encouragement has been given not to pull the trigger but, I bet you one red Smartie they pull it.

  Balaammsass2 - yes locally using that logic someone has even come up with the 3 witness rule. Leave it long enough maybe they'll have a 144k witness rule.
  

  Overrate - this person is not afraid of what these sad, misguided men are going to do. They are pitiable but they are behaving outrageously. This one tried to help them as a shepherd tries to help a lost sheep. Truely Christian and moved by profound concern for their well being. All to no avail at the moment.
  
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  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

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  Yes this is way more than on speakerphone - the person is right out in the open with it. If they'd wanted to, I expect the whole body of elders could have listened in.
  

  The elders were professing to offer 'help'. Not that anyone believed they were trying to help. But kindness was extended to them, to allow them to reason on the scriptures and consider the steps they were taking.

  But their 'help' proved to be ensuring the loyalty questions had NOT been answered correctly. Once they had checked that (which they had know for ages) they decided to call a judicial at the KH wearing face masks.
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  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

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  Yes silentbuddha they will df the person and they know he has done nothing wrong from a Christian point of view. But from a Watchtower view... well splutter, mutter, feather spit.
  
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  2020-Letter Writing Manual--Pre-Authorized Debit Donations!--( as of 2020-10-10)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2020-10--letter writing templates manual.

  91 pages.

  2020-10-01--donation arrangement--pre-authorized debit.

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  Anna Marina

  Me too please.
  
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  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

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  Anna Marina

  BluesBrother they have known for years that this person questoned everything. But they have only now started the df process.

  Finding no fault with this one, other than not complying with WT doctrine/being concerned about findings of the Aus Royal Commission, one elder latched onto the refusal to wear a face mask - which would have endangered NO ONE because this one will not be attending the judicial.

  That's the stupid thing about all this.

  Living by Jesus Christ's standards is important to Christians. Love your neighbour involves keeping them safe. Not living by Jesus' standards is what the elders are doing. By doing this they are attempting to cause separation and division.
  
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  Pete Dragon Referance to JWs

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
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  si had to check this out.

  i was watching an old disney movie from my childhood in the early 80's.

  the movie 'pete's dragon' was made in the late 70's i stopped however upon on scene.

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  Anna Marina

  Yes - when they threw me out for sticking to the word of the prophets Daniel, Jeremiah and Ezekiel they weren't upset that I was gone. No instead they went of and held a party where they put on a show did there own full on version of this song. The elder who marked me played the greatest showman.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkjhqJ55I1I

  The actual musical is about Barnum who coined the phrase 'there's one born every minute'. So no the con artist wouldn't have been thrown out of the KIngdom Hall he could have become a CO at least.

  Meet the next generation CO.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfO_OfmGOl0
  
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  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

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  Anna Marina

  Overrated - the 2 inch paint brush is pretty well known. I think it came from a video that was shown in the halls.
  

  Drearyweather - yes they want to hold an in-person judicial because that is what they want to do. All wearing face masks. But it's not going to happen.

  Although this person has done nothing wrong, except question Watchtower doctrine and their unchristian practices, one of the elders got rattled when the "publisher" (or ex-publisher) said they would not wear a face mask, let alone turn up. That's how I understand it.

  Steel - I think the elder shared your viewpoint and felt that face mask wearing gave him the moral high ground.
  

  The person rendered the elders silent over and over again by using the scriptures appropriately.